Posts by Newly Enlightened

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Project: I need help finding Watchtowers that show hate, prejudice, and name-calling.

by Emery in

i know there are a lot of examples to choose from but i want to find wt references that are the most blatant.

the printed evidence can be a great resource to all, including jw lurkers who fact-check.. .

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Newly Enlightened

Here's another one that I just found thanks to Snarky the Apologists on Youtube:

1961 WT 7/15 pg 420:

Jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but God’s Word also says to “hate what is bad.” When a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked. Indicating that Jesus did not mean for us to love the hardened enemies of Jehovah, David expressed this God-approved attitude: “Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become to me real enemies.”—Matt. 5:44; Amos 5:15; Ps. 139:21, 22.

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new member- my story

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

"that which can be asserted without evidence, can.

be dismissed without evidence.

" - christopher hitchens.

Newly Enlightened

WELCOME ADCMS! So very happy to have you here on the board with us. Look forward to hearing more of your experiences. We loved your post and hope you stick around with us.

You sound like a very logical, down to Earth person.

Love you Brother

K

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Question about talking to JW

by darklight in

jw
friends

i was raised atheist and never believed in any religion.

i've been studying the watchtower religion with a younger jw couple for some months now.. my main motivation was the fact i knew nothing about christianity, they knocked on my door and offered their "bible" study... so why not learn something, i thought.. .

and yeah, this is one crazy cult.... .

Newly Enlightened

First off WELCOME to this board, nice to have you here. I hope you stick around.

It's good that you've been playing along. If you calmly ask them innocent sounding questions and make them do their own research then you can help them by planting some questions in their mind. But it has to be done calmly, without confrontation otherwise the JW radar goes up.

That is what happened to a JW decades ago. Carl Olaf Jonsson. He had a bible student ask him to prove that 607bce & 1914 were the dates mentioned in the bible. He couldn't do it. Several years later he wrote the book 'Gentile Times Reconsidered' proving that WT was wrong. He was kicked out of WTBT$ for his research.

I don't know if you've come to the chapter yet in your study about God's name. They believe it to be Jehovah and have even taken it as part of their name. Here's some info for you. This comes from the Catholic answers website. http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/is-gods-name-yahweh-or-jehovah

But you can ask them, "Well if JW's have gotten totally away from other religions, especially the Catholic Church, then why do you use the name Jehovah, when it was a Catholic Monk's INVENTION?"

They can try to explain it away all they want to, but they cannot answer that one!

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Can anyone help?

by Pink sapphire in

hi, i'm doing some research, which many here have participated in and could do with some help.. on another forum some months ago someone commented that in a july 1992 watchtower it said that the emotional effects of disfellowshipping may last far beyond reinstatement.

i thought this a really interesting statement and would like to include it in my assignment, acknowledging the harm done by disfellowshipping and its not just a protective and disciplinary process.

i don't know if i believe they would actually go that far.. my problem is that i have no access to wt literature (i dont really want fo visit my old congregation library) and the online library on www.jw.org only goes back to 2000. does anyone here have access to bound volumes and a bit of time that they could check this out for me?.

Newly Enlightened

I have the WT CD-rom lib and I did a search for that phrase, also just the words 'disfellowship' & reinstatement but couldn't find anything from the 92 WT. If you could get maybe which July WT it was. I will be happy to look it up

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Why Is This Video By Jehovah's Witnesses Sign Language Dept. So Wrong

by BlindersOff1 in

sorry could not resist.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gsvcfrmjq&feature=youtu.be.

Newly Enlightened

I find this freakin' hilarious.

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Girl scout cookies are demonized

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

okay so i think it might be the concussion making me go on this rant...not too sure.. the girl scouts started selling their cookies yesterday and for the first time in my life i will be ordering cookies.....i mean wtf is so wrong with ordering cookies from them?

i love the thin mint's and guess what?

you can only buy them from girl scouts!!!!!!.

Newly Enlightened

OK, so now since I'm an evil wicked apostate buying Girl Scout cookies and Keebler fudge magic cookies, I have truly gone over the cliff. I went to the bank this morning and the kids were selling chocolate bars for the United Way. I bought some!!! And didn't even feel guilty.

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"They went out from us, but they were not of our sort..." - worst ever scripture to lead an anti-apostate talk?

by cedars in

the program for the 2013 convention series has been drawn to my attention.

here is a link to it.... http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&output=html&pub=co-pgm13&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.

there is a saturday morning symposium on "apostates.

Newly Enlightened

According to their interpretation of that scripture and the context......1 John 2: 18-20

I guess we're the anti-christ now!

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Project: I need help finding Watchtowers that show hate, prejudice, and name-calling.

by Emery in

i know there are a lot of examples to choose from but i want to find wt references that are the most blatant.

the printed evidence can be a great resource to all, including jw lurkers who fact-check.. .

.

Newly Enlightened

Well, you may get more evidence now. According to Cedars new post, the Sat morning program of the 2013 DC is all about hating us evil apostates!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/249228/1/They-went-out-from-us-but-they-were-not-of-our-sort-worst-ever-scripture-to-lead-an-anti-apostate-talk

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"They went out from us, but they were not of our sort..." - worst ever scripture to lead an anti-apostate talk?

by cedars in

the program for the 2013 convention series has been drawn to my attention.

here is a link to it.... http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&output=html&pub=co-pgm13&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.

there is a saturday morning symposium on "apostates.

Newly Enlightened

Thanks Cedars, great catch.

I guess that I must truly be an apostate then, because I find their assembly program hilarious. HATE, HATE, HATE

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Raphael Aron in The Age newspaper: Jehovah's Witnesses 'a cruel cult'

by WinstonSmith in

this popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.

Newly Enlightened

For WTBT$ to outright lie to the world like that is unbelievable to me. But that Vincent Toole, really is a 'tool'. But I LOVE Snarky's video....

http://youtu.be/0_suDumCqAE